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Have we ever seen a good, clear Lex Luthor signature onscreen? I can't think of one, though I know I've seen plenty of "Lex" (complete with quotes) MR signatures on fannish trinkets. I haven't personally seen evidence of MR signing a full "Lex Luthor" on any fan stuff, either. I ask because I want a good, clear image of either MR/Lex's signature as Lex Luthor for a project. If anyone could point me to a screencap or a scan of an autograph, I'd appreciate it muchly.

ETA: [livejournal.com profile] shannenb is a loving and giving Goddess. That is all.

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Do you hate me? Do I drive you nuts? Do you only have me on your friends list so you can complain to your actual friends about what a whiner I am? Is a fic post from me just another opportunity to mock how much my writing sucks? A recent unfriending has me surprised and also tired of cliqueish LJ pettiness and...and...and just all the crap. If I bother you that much, please do unfriend me, sooner rather than later (i.e., now), and we'll all feel much better. Or, as less testy people have put it: unfriending amnesty time! No questions asked!

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I'm still trying to pick a story from the plethora of options for my [livejournal.com profile] remixredux assignment. I am rather intrigued by a couple of options, and it's been fun because I actually knew and liked a lot of this author's work, but hadn't realized it was all her stuff, since I apparently don't do a good job of linking titles to authors, or even titles to contents. I'm really enthusiastic about this, and I've been hoping it would happen for months and months.

And for whoever got me, I have more fodder for you! I've posted three stories this weekend, with a fourth to come today. It's all SV/Bruce Wayne stuff: Scions, Born Slippy, and Eidolon helvum. I'll also be cleaning up and posting a slightly different version of my silly pon farr story, Biological Imperative, to the archives and my site soon.

I'm really excited about [livejournal.com profile] remixredux because I'm excited to see what someone will do with my ideas, whether for (IMO) better or worse. Several people on my friends list have been talking about hating their writing, being discouraged, wanting to improve some aspect of their work, etc., and I'm hoping the remix process will afford me a little of that when I see what has been done with something of mine. I'm hoping that seeing how someone else's process shapes "my" ideas will give me a little insight into what I've been doing with the same raw materials.

Ideally, I would be able to approach various fanwriters whose work I really admire and just ask them to rework a story or even a few paragraphs of mine, but 1) I'm not that bold, and 2) I can't imagine that most people have the time to indulge my whims. I'm very aware that I have much room to improve but I like my writing. I don't like all pieces equally, but if I liked them well enough to post, I like them (all stories are equal, but some are more equal than others). I joke about being a diva with my friends, but is it really diva-ish behavior if I just don't hate this aspect of myself with all my puny might? No, I don't think so, either ;)

Date: 2004-02-08 12:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aelora.livejournal.com
The only Lex signature I can remember seeing was in 'X-Ray' when the banker checks Tina's Lex signature against Lex's signature from when he opened the account. Sadly, I haven't been able to find a cap of it yet...

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Date: 2004-02-08 12:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
Oh, thank you! And [livejournal.com profile] rivier points out that scene, too! I'm going to have to go searching now...

Date: 2004-02-08 12:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] destina.livejournal.com
If I bother you that much, please do unfriend me, sooner rather than later (i.e., now), and we'll all feel much better.

*chuckle* I swear to you, I was just writing something very similar in my own journal, and trying to figure out a tactful way to put it. I haven't managed it yet. *g*

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Date: 2004-02-08 12:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
Well, if people are hoping for tact, they probably do need to unfriend me. I used to be a gracious creature, but I have apparently grown out of it. Of course, when I try to be offensive, I usually get a pat on the head--it's the rest of the time that I manage to piss people off.

Date: 2004-02-08 12:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rivier.livejournal.com
Lex signature? From memory, in the season one Tina Grier episode - was it X-Ray? - when Tina's pretending to be Lex in the bank, right at the start, we see 'Lex' sign a paper and the bank manager takes it to where Lex's real signature is held in file. He compares them, and I'm pretty sure we see both signatures - so the one on file must be the *real* Lex Luthor signature.

Hope that helps! (I'm intrigued to know what you're going to use it for...)

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Date: 2004-02-08 12:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
Thank you! You and [livejournal.com profile] aelora are genius!

And I'm going to use it to make a thing I really, really want, but which also happens to be an instance of blatant multiple copyright infringement. I'm being cryptic because if I do make it, I'll want to share, and I'd rather wait ;)

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Date: 2004-02-08 12:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhiannonhero.livejournal.com
I'm glad you like your writing (some more equally than others) because personally I find it really dull when authors complain about how much they suck. I've got just as many issues with my writing as the rest of us do (as you well know, since you know me personally) but one of my New Year's Resolutions was to stop saying bad things about my writing to the best of my ability.

This means to me--restraining from replying to feedback comments in a self-deprecating manner. Telling people that I (*gasp*) liked a certain part, too, if they point it out. Admitting that I'm having fun writing and enjoy it. And if someone says something outrageously complimentary acknowledging as a huge compliment, but not shrugging it off or otherwise deflecting it.

I'm doing this for the most part because, honestly, I'm tired of women kowtowing (sp?) to other women in order to try to keep the playing feel flat and harmonious. Women need to learn how to praise (love) themselves and a culture of women generally doesn't allow for that because we are acrimonious bitches who try to shove one another down.

Which, yeah, is so ingrained in us that it is hard to overcome, but at the moment I'm trying to not let the culture of acrimony affect my self-esteem building efforts (heheheh) around my writing and therefore, I'm taking a lesson from [livejournal.com profile] mistressace and not putting my writing down (in public) any more.

Heh. Or until I have a fit of I'm-a-loser-dom and become a hypocrite and do exactly what I just said I wouldn't. ;)

Anyway, yay for you not hating your writing. Why don't you admit it? There's part of you that actually (*gasp*) loves your writing.

Oh, and send me the acrimonious scoop by email re: the unfriending. Bwahahahaha.

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Date: 2004-02-08 12:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolimir-k.livejournal.com
Women need to learn how to praise (love) themselves

Amen sister.

While I don't like everything I write, I'm very pleased with most of my stuff. While I'll never write like some (women whose work I adore) it doesn't take away from the fact that I do okay. Like I've recently said, I'm the Stephen King of fanfic. Heh! Not horror-wise. But I tell a good tale. I may never be Vonnegut or Hemmingway, but people will get a good yarn if they listen to me.

Girl power!

Okay........I am in such a weird mood today. Sorry. Heh!

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Date: 2004-02-08 01:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
I think I do a good job of that, actually. If you think otherwise, I'd like to know. I just don't see the point in pretending I hate what I'm doing. If there are things I think I could have done better, I will sometimes say that, depending on who I'm talking with, i.e., if it's someone who I think understands that I actually do have plenty of writerly esteem, based on past interactions.

And I do *love* some things I've written very, very much. Which makes it interesting to me to see what readers have passion about, because they're not necessarily the same pieces or even the same aspects. But even if I think readers are on crack to prefer Story X over Story Y, Story X is still pretty damn dear to my heart ;)

My favorite author for both style and structure is Nabokov. I am never going to actually "be" Nabokov (however you interpret that), obviously, but I can aspire, and I'm not likely to become less skilled if I continue to write. And I think it is very important to have a lofty goal that you are certain you will never reach. If I can never be as all-around miraculous as Nabokov, I just have to keep working and trying... I find that oddly comforting and inspiring.

You know, I've tried to stop whining for strokes, period. I am my own worst enemy in any arena, but I'm certain that I don't suck as a writer. I don't suck as a person, even, although I *do* think Mr. Glove has the patience of a saint.

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Date: 2004-02-08 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nerodi.livejournal.com
therefore, I'm taking a lesson from mistressace and not putting my writing down (in public) any more.

Yay!! Because you know it drives me batty when you do this!!!!


Hi Jed, I like your writing. I look forward to reading your new story sometime this week!

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Date: 2004-02-08 12:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suzycat.livejournal.com
Ditto on x-ray. The real one is very spiky and pointy.

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Date: 2004-02-08 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
I can't remember it, but I'll take your word for it. I bet the "real" one is MR's actual signature, as his handwriting seems to resemble an inarticulate heart attack. And didn't Tina-Lex sign right-handed? I need to find these caps!

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Date: 2004-02-08 12:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolimir-k.livejournal.com
Do you hate me?

Nope.

Do I drive you nuts?

Again nope.

Do you only have me on your friends list so you can complain to your actual friends about what a whiner I am?

LOL! Still nope.

Is a fic post from me just another opportunity to mock how much my writing sucks?

Absolutely not. You know I adore your writing.

Don't worry about people defriending you. People come and go all the time on my LJ. It used to bother me, but I find that sometimes interests change. You can't take it personally.

But whatever you do...DO NOT GET INTO POPSLASH. OKAY?? Within the last few months I've taken myself off of several LJs because of that. I just can't deal with it. It's nothing personal to the women who were enjoying it...I just couldn't.

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Date: 2004-02-08 01:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
Hee! Well this is an instance where I thought this person liked and respected me well enough, if from a distance, because I had no reason to think otherwise...and it was mutual. We still share, well, everything, so far as I can tell, in terms of interests. Whatever. I could ask, but I don't know to what purpose. In addition to liking my own writing, I have this huge, crippling issue of pride/dignity that keeps me from groveling to get people to refriend me.

As to popslash: I shall be blunt. I think they're all ugly. Justin is hot from the neck down, but he does, after all, have a head, and I don't want to look at it. My dear [livejournal.com profile] shaggirl tried to get me to convert, but it didn't take ;)

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MR's signature

Date: 2004-02-08 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mslasha.livejournal.com
I have Michael's signature on a SV script that I got at a Con. It would be a very good specimen for a writing analysis. I can scan it for you if you want. But what shall I ask in return? *g*

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Date: 2004-02-08 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
Oh, thank you--but actually, I have MR's signature as Michael already, and also as "Lex," but not the full "Lex Luthor." Of course, if he signed it as "Lex Luthor" then I'll give you anything you want for a scan :)

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Date: 2004-02-08 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ilexa.livejournal.com
Personally? I love you like oodles. Cause, well, you rock.

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Date: 2004-02-08 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
You are very lovable yourself! Enthusiasm is rather a turn-on ;)

Date: 2004-02-08 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shannenb.livejournal.com
I have Michael's signature as Lex. Let me see if I can scan it for you.

Date: 2004-02-08 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
EEEE!!! That would be great! And if I manage to make the thing I want this for, I'll make one for you, too... [/crypticness]

*jumps up and down*

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Date: 2004-02-08 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spiderine.livejournal.com
I love you. I'm not unfriending you. I think you rock! *hug*

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Date: 2004-02-08 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
*hugs back with all eight limbs*

Date: 2004-02-08 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anathema666.livejournal.com
I, too, do not wish to unfriend you. Besides your succulent icons, your interesting and intelligent posts, and your superior sense of style, sometimes you post pictures of yourself in leather, and, honestly, there is no better way to keep this pervert around and happy.

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Date: 2004-02-08 03:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
Hee! When I make it back home, i.e., Northwestish area, you're going to come get gay go-go boy lapdances with me, right? I will wear an extra layer of skin.

Date: 2004-02-08 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cjandre.livejournal.com
The defriending thing is something I just don't follow. People could defriend me and I would never know. I never check. I have found this to be highly effective in eliminating the stress of LJ *g*

Certainly I enjoy your posts, I love your icons, and I enjoy your stories, so you will be remaining on my flist.

The Remix thing has me very excited - I have picked a story from my assigned author and I have started outlining - I think it's going to be fun. Although I have to admit to being a bit nervous - I think I have more stagefright over this than over a regular story.

However, even when I am worried a bit about what other people think of my writing, I like it. Or I should say I like it after it is done. *g* The confidence DURING writing is sometimes shaky, but when a piece is done and i go back to it later, I like it. I may find little things I want to tweak - no story is ever perfect - but I like my own writing.

So go you! Write! Post! Whine! *g* It's all good.

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Date: 2004-02-08 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
I have to confess: I'm socially neurotic and, unlike RL, LJ provides this little faux meter of my supposed popularity and I just can't stop looking. But I am glad I am remaining on your list ;)

I'm trying to clear the decks a little so I can focus on the Remix story, which is how I'm explaining my sudden flurry of writing/posting activity to myself. I've got a ton of stuff I'm trying to finish, and so long as I've got momentum, I think I ought to take advantage of it.

I'm not so much intimidated by the Remix as wanting to write something that I think the original author might enjoy, i.e., trying to identify themes throughout all the stories in a rather vague, intuitive way, and using whatever I come up with in some twisty way.

And congratulations on liking your own writing! Like Rhi, I'm bothered when people flagellate themselves in public. I understand the impulse, and I've done it over non-writing issues myself, but where I see my RL issues as thorny, convoluted, and resistant to change, all of my writing issues feel as if they can be overcome--perhaps because I feel that have absolute control over my writing, and, in an extremely fundamental way, I don't believe I can honestly say that about anything else.

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Date: 2004-02-08 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] echoskeleton.livejournal.com
I know that you've already got a scan of the signature, but I managed to find a screencap from X-Ray over at Love That Lana. It's here, and looks a little different from the one [livejournal.com profile] shannenb provided. Actually, according to this pic, me and Lex make our capital 'L's the same way! I'm not sure whether to be excited or worried about this...

And I think it's great that you like you're writing, and really wish that I could. I love a story while I'm writing it, but once I make it public I immediately become really embarrassed by it. If I keep it to myself, I can still think it's good, but after someone else reads it I start to hate it. Weird.

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Date: 2004-02-08 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suzycat.livejournal.com
Eee! There it is! I love it!

Note how girlie the fake one is by comparison.

Date: 2004-02-08 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twigged.livejournal.com
Do you hate me? Do I drive you nuts? Do you only have me on your friends list so you can complain to your actual friends about what a whiner I am? Is a fic post from me just another opportunity to mock how much my writing sucks? A recent unfriending has me surprised and also tired of cliqueish LJ pettiness and...and...and just all the crap. If I bother you that much, please do unfriend me, sooner rather than later (i.e., now), and we'll all feel much better. Or, as less testy people have put it: unfriending amnesty time! No questions asked!

It's scary how closely this approximates a post I was contemplating just yesterday. With all the LJ politicking that goes on, I can honestly say there's not a single person on my list I don't like and want to be friendly with. But...I do know that feeling's not always mutual, and I know good and well why. I'm not a hypocrite, either. I'm perfectly able to put bad feelings behind me, or it I can't, how to remove those people from my list.

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Date: 2004-02-08 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suzycat.livejournal.com
*smooches* Well, I love you.

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Date: 2004-02-08 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suzycat.livejournal.com
I was so distracted by the Lex signature - I am Virgo, The Detail Obsessor! - that I forgot to say that I *refuse* to defriend you, because you are cool. Ha! Take that!

Date: 2004-02-09 07:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meret.livejournal.com
I'm really enjoying these Bruce/Lex stories. I don't think I've seen one where Lex was older before. Great job! :)

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