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I hate admitting defeat, even if I'm insisting on calling it only "possible" defeat. [/cryptic]

On the "healthy eating" front, I haven't had any sugar in about 72 hours and I feel very, very strange.  Dopesick, maybe.  It's not entirely unpleasant.  At least not until I remind myself of the defeat (see above).

I need reassurance of a global, generalized, hug-free nature if you have any to spare. 

Date: 2004-07-02 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timian.livejournal.com
<--rubs your feet

Date: 2004-07-12 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
Thank you. And excuse the late response. I have been angsting.

Date: 2004-07-02 10:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] digitalwave
You can have all the *hugs* you need Jed. I'm here if you need someone to talk to.

Date: 2004-07-12 04:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
Thank you. I appreciate knowing that.

Date: 2004-07-02 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] happyminion.livejournal.com
Rage against the dying of the light or defeat or whatever.

As for the diet, hmmm. I know it's low carb and not no carb, but do you think it's just your seratonin levels adjusting? Maybe if you give it one more day or the weekend, to see if it levels out.

Date: 2004-07-12 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
Well, many days later, and I'm still tired. I've also now lost ~15 lb. while sleeping, which makes it pretty obvious there was something very wrong with the way I was eating before. I'm on TWO antidepressants that already mess with my serotonin levels, so I'm not certain whether that makes this better or worse. Given my reaction, I'm thinking "worse."

Of the good: I want blueberries and a nectarine, not candy. Of the bad: I am still too stupid to write.

Date: 2004-07-02 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] destina.livejournal.com
Is the nature of your possible defeat related to GZ? If so, I feel your pain. And if not, here's some hug-free good vibes headed your way.

*goes back to fighting the good fight*

Date: 2004-07-12 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
Yes. And now, days later, the evidence is most definitely not there, making my defeat complete *sigh*.

Date: 2004-07-02 10:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rose7.livejournal.com
I found that drinking lots of water helps. First of all it gives my mouth something to do, secondly it helps flush toxins out of the body and helps to prevent the headaches so common to the first days of a diet (at least for me).

And if the diet is not for you, don't despair. You will find one that is just right for you. Especially diets are not as universally right for people as those you sell the books and other paraphernalia would like to make us believe. Usually I eat lots of fruits when I force myself to stop eating sweets because my body craves the sugar for a few days, but after maybe two weeks of sticking to the diet my whole sugar intake sinks because I don't need the same amount of fruits anymore.

Date: 2004-07-12 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
I don't think I ever realized before how much my food intake was centered around sugar. Fruit, sure, but also lots of candy. Lots of carbs/starch. Bread. Cold cereal. Pasta. And since this diet has excluded all of those things, it has also inadvertently excluded wheat. Based on a number of things I've read recently, I'm wondering if wheat might be a problem for me, as well. Despite being exhausted, there was clearly something wrong with my prior diet if I can lose ~15 lb while sleeping.

I have major serotonin problems on my own, and I think that this has certainly messed them up more, although I'm not any more depressed than usual. If I'm going to have serotonin issues, I'd much rather be sleepy than suicidal.

And I am indeed drinking lots of water. We're allowed lemon in this phase of the program, so I'm drinking lots of lemony water. And, of course, crunching ice and making Mr. Glove go slowly insane with the sound of it.

Date: 2004-07-02 11:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] myashke.livejournal.com
I've found that Crystalized Ginger helps when I need hug-free, generalized reassurance. Comfort food for the ears/soul/larnyx.

Plus, defeat isn't always a bad thing. Sometimes it's nice to be reminded that you're human after all. If the goal is officially unmet, just let it wash over you instead of letting it swirl you around and suck you down. The self-forgiveness phase begins almost immediately that way. :)

xxxxx

You're fine.

Date: 2004-07-03 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nematoddity.livejournal.com
It depends on how much your sugar intake was previously, of course, but you're just coming down. It's normal. White sugar is a toxin, and as it leaves the body, you'll go through withdrawal symptoms.

Things to make it easier--if you're allowed fruit juice or fruit, that will help. If you're not, drinking lots of distilled ice water will do in a pinch. Remember that the closer to pure white sugar is, the worse it is for you.

Also, when you return to sugar as a lifestyle, be prepared, depending on how much time you've been without it, for it to taste overly sweet and even acidly bitter. This can be palliated, again, by eating fruit or drinking fruit juice, using fructose or turbinado sugar as sweeteners instead, and avoiding products containing a great amount of processed sugar.

Dunno if that was general enough, but it's applicable, since it's what's happening to you. You are strong and you will get through this. I have faith in the Jed.

Date: 2004-07-03 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msdaccxx.livejournal.com
Okay, *pokes you in the eye in that case*

Getting off the sugar is like coming down off anything, I guess. And I really can't think of any comforting replacement that isn't carb-laden and forbidden. Bread, booze, potatoes, oatmeal, even - it's all on the shit-list, isn't it?

Baked bananas are good and seem to contain a frighening amount of fruit sugars - can you have those?

Date: 2004-07-03 04:22 am (UTC)

Date: 2004-07-03 05:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ruedifference.livejournal.com
Don't think of it as a defeat, but as a mometary change of plans.

*um, waves cheerfully*

Date: 2004-07-03 07:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reetchick.livejournal.com
Perhaps a bit of the Big Gay Shriek would take your mind off of things for a while....

*hides from the naughty frolicking animals*

Date: 2004-07-03 08:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] corinna-5.livejournal.com
Coming off sugar makes things weird. It passes, I promise.

Date: 2004-07-03 09:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alee-gothphyle.livejournal.com
So... sugar's out, alcohol is banned, and caffeine is on the hit list. Hmmmm, well I have utter confidence that you will prevail, and I offer you good vibes, and wishes for lascivious evenings spent in distracting debauchery.

Date: 2004-07-03 11:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tobyfan.livejournal.com
You should be *extremely* proud of yourself. Go, Jed. *g*

{hugs}

Date: 2004-07-03 11:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tobyfan.livejournal.com
You can just delete those hugs in the last post. Mistakenly added them. Nope, they never appeared at all. *g*

Date: 2004-07-03 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lexcorp-hope.livejournal.com
I can give you an uplifting shiatsu massage and another assurance that all's right with the world no matter what. Also, I can give you a magical sundae of your choice that has absolutely no carbs or sugar in it, and yet, it tastes fantastic. Isn't magic grand?

Date: 2004-07-03 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhyo.livejournal.com
I'll hug you for that AND give you a bonus hug: due to your pimpage and the crack_van listing, I just ordered the DVDs for YNM.

Date: 2004-07-03 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhiannonhero.livejournal.com
I miss you. You are lovely and loved.

Date: 2004-07-03 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raelan.livejournal.com
Go you. And *hugs* because I have plenty to spare *g*

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