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I'd really appreciate it if any and everyone who sees this could take a moment to answer the questions.

[Poll #260511]

And now I am going to go watch Lucinda Williams at the Ryman Auditorium, and I know there are a few of you who understand what a good, good thing that is...and I wish you could all be here enjoying it with me ;)

Date: 2004-03-09 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twigged.livejournal.com
While I chose friends only as "vital for peace of mind" that only applies because of my current work situation. Once I own my business I will likely unlock my journal again. Personally, I hope you don't lock yours because I think you have one of the most interesting journals on my flist (see "blather") and it would be a shame.

*smooches you*

Oh, and email me or die! DIE!!

Date: 2004-03-09 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
Well, I actually thought that I would lock for petty reasons that have to do with my huge need to control others, but it seems like a lot of trouble and the things that bother me really only bother me the absolute most for a few days a month on a suspiciously cyclical basis...

Also, I thought most people would say they were here for the fic and only the fic, and since that hasn't been the case, the notion of splitting out the stories is pointless. So, I probably won't change anything, but at least now I know why I'm not changing anything ;)

Date: 2004-03-09 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] debc.livejournal.com
If I put together a fic-only journal but was to continue to cross-post fic in this one, would you...

I wished there had been a "friend both" option, because likely, that is what I would do.

Finish this sentence: Friends-only journals are...

... disheartening. I understand why people are doing it. Between the serial-adder freaks and threats of getting your fandom life discovered by your real life... I understand. But I hate see so many Friends ONly banners popping up, because it means newbies to the lj community will be left on the outside until they are "invited" into it in order to see the good stuff.

But you do what you have to do, I guess.

Date: 2004-03-09 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
But I hate see so many Friends ONly banners popping up, because it means newbies to the lj community will be left on the outside until they are "invited" into it in order to see the good stuff.

I agree. My reasons for thinking I might want to lock are, actually, quite petty and a bit on the control-freak side. The results of this poll have been a nice surprise. I expected that people were here for the fic only, but the point of a fic-only journal is pretty much null if people also enjoy the rest of my natterings. I don't like the idea of "missing out" on people because I've made it impossible for us to connect.

If the poll had gone differently, I might have made some changes, but it seems actually best--not to mention easiest--to leave things as they are.

Date: 2004-03-09 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stopawhile.livejournal.com
Am cryptic. Whooo. *waves hands*

As for friends-locking, it's sometimes necessary. *shrug* Good luck.

Date: 2004-03-09 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
Hee!

There are no "good" reasons for me to friends-lock, especially if most people enjoy the non-fic posts. I have petty reasons, but they break more things than they fix, so I'll probably just leave things as they are. I expected people to say they were here for fic and fic only, but since that hasn't been the case, I'm going to save myself some work and keep the journal open for now.

Date: 2004-03-09 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] echoskeleton.livejournal.com
Just to clarify my comment about friends-only journals: I think that they're often a necessity, since so many people update from work, or have other, equally pressing reasons for keeping their fannish activity secret.

Date: 2004-03-09 10:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
I have no such pressing reasons. My reasons are petty. There are aspects of having an open journal that bug me, but I hate the idea of missing out on meeting new people even more. I thought that if most people were here for the fic and only the fic, then it would make sense to have a separate journal for that, but--to my happy surprise--that apparently isn't the case. Therefore, I don't have to do anything. Yay, laziness!

Date: 2004-03-10 05:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] echoskeleton.livejournal.com
I thought that if most people were here for the fic and only the fic, then it would make sense to have a separate journal for that, but--to my happy surprise--that apparently isn't the case.

One of the best things about LJ is that you get to know the authors personally, and I've found myself actually less interested in fic written by people I don't know. Call me a voyeur, but I like hearing about people's lives, and knowing what they think about various issues. Not only does it give me an extra appreciation of their work, but usually the stories and discussions are interesting.

And, yes yay laziness! Sloth is the best!

Date: 2004-03-09 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhiannonhero.livejournal.com
I can't recall why I friended you. I keep you around 'cause of my gigantic love for you.

Friends-locked saved my sanity. I advocate it for several reasons, but we've discussed that at length already.

Date: 2004-03-09 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
I think Jacyn made you friend me ;) And then I sprinkled voodoo powder on your cereal and it made you love me.

Friends locking would fix one thing that bothers me, but it would then break several others. I thought if more people were here only for fic, then it would make sense to friends-lock this one and have an open fic journal, but since the results are not showing that the majority would prefer fic-only (a nice surprise), then it seems 1) pointless and 2) very much like work.

re: mailing list. I mailed all the packages except for yours since you'll be here.

Date: 2004-03-09 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scribblinlenore.livejournal.com
I meant "shut up and make your friends-only LJ already" in the nicest possible way. :)

Date: 2004-03-09 10:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
Yeah, well: You are dirty. Dirty, dirtier, dirtiest.

Actually, I think I won't lock it. I thought that if people were--as I had rather expected--here only for stories, then it would make sense to have a journal for that and to lock this one...but since that doesn't seem to be the case, then I am going to choose to be lazy instead and do nothing.

Lazy, lazier, laziest.

Date: 2004-03-09 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justblue0162.livejournal.com
I friended you at first because I was new to LJ and I was friending all my favorite authors en masse. And then you turned out to be thoroughly interesting and unique and I had no choice but to keep you around. Damn you.

I didn't answer the last question becuase I don't really have an opinion on flocking. If you need to do it, for whatever reason... go on with your red-cowboy-boot-wearing-firefly-loving self.

Date: 2004-03-09 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
And I was all flattered and teased and flirted with you and stalked you all the way to North Carolina. Where we did not have the opportunity to get hepatitis.

I was expecting a majority to say they were here for fic and fic only, but since that isn't the case, I'm planning to be lazy and do nothing, i.e., leave the journal open, and only have the one.

Date: 2004-03-09 11:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justblue0162.livejournal.com
I've thought about posting a similar poll, but I'm terrified everyone will pick the "Didn't you used to write fic? Where's the clex, you lazy piece of crap!" option.

I'm tickled that you were expecting a different response than the one you got. Your posts (and the comments they generate) are always interesting to read. I missed you while you were painting. Glad you're staying put.

Date: 2004-03-09 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cjandre.livejournal.com
I didn't pick an answer to number three since I couldn't find one I agreed with.

I think friends locked journals are a personal choice that you do if you need or want to. It's your journal, you can lock if you want to! *g*

Date: 2004-03-09 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
Everyone I know who has locked has a reason for doing so that makes complete sense to me. My own reason--i.e., I'm a control freak and I want to know exactly who is reading things--is petty in comparison. If the poll results showed that most people wanted fic and only fic (which is what I expected), then making two journals and locking the personal one would make sense...but with the results being counter to what I expected, and the "fix" requiring too much work, I'm going to leave things as they are.

Date: 2004-03-10 05:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nerodi.livejournal.com
I don't understand why you thinki that is a petty reason.

Date: 2004-03-10 08:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
Well, I guess it's not...but my feelings behind that desire are...childish. I don't care WHO reads, I just want to know that they're there doing it, admitting to it. I find it really annoying that I can upset people who think I'm talking about them behind their backs when 1) they haven't friended me, so why would I know that they are reading? and 2) why would my journal be all about people who, so far as I know, don't even know I exist?

Hell. Maybe it's not childish at all.

It's interesting to me that quite a few fannish people consider me a neurotic paranoiac because I want to know these things, but I read a bit of that tedious discussion on [livejournal.com profile] lj_biz re: LJ "friend" designation changes and was interested to note that apparently most non-fannish types consider reading without friending to be stalking. I wouldn't go that far, but there are a couple of people who have told me they read my journal regularly but do not have it friended, which makes no sense to me. Ideally, my journal would be unreadable by anyone who hadn't friended it until they had done so, in which case they'd be added automatically.

Date: 2004-03-09 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pun.livejournal.com
I friended you because I like you. Or that's why you're still around anyway. I think originally I just really liked your post about the wierdness of "friending."

I think friends locking is up to the individual, but I like to keep my LJ as open as possible. I love it when random people drop by.

Date: 2004-03-09 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
I love when random people show up, too. I expected the poll to show more people wanting to see fic and only fic, and if that had been the case, then I probably would have locked this one to "fix" my audience-control issues. However, it's too much work to make the change since it's apparently not necessary or sensible, and I'm also staying open to meeting new people. Also, if I do nothing, I'm, well, doing nothing which is always easier than work.

Word association just for you: I say "sleepy" - you say _______

Have you seen Sopranos yet?

Date: 2004-03-10 06:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pun.livejournal.com
Word association just for you: I say "sleepy" - you say _______

Bed!


Have you seen Sopranos yet?


I'm supposed to watch tonight, but now that plan has been called into question.

Date: 2004-03-09 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mlleelizabeth.livejournal.com
My opinion on friends locking is: whatever makes you feel comfortable.

I enjoy your fic and your blathering very much. You are one of the most interesting LJers I know. And you understand the importance of owning a tiara!

Date: 2004-03-09 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
Tiara: Some people need to have a child to feel like a "complete" woman. I just needed a shiny hat.

My locking issues are relatively petty. Had the poll results shown most people want fic and only fic, it might make sense for me to lock this one and have an open fic journal. However, since the results are not at all what I expected (which is nice), I'm going to try to deal with my periodic diva tantrums and just leave things as they are: one journal, no lock.

Date: 2004-03-09 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pepperjackcandy.livejournal.com
Cryptic reason: I friend people when I feel like I know them on some level. I make occasional personal-information friends-only posts and I want to know the people who have access to that information.

So, people whose journals I find interesting but I don't really *know* I remember the usernames of and type in the url from memory (actually from username.livejournal.com and if they don't have a paid account the click on the www.livejournal.com . . . link that gives me), but people I know I friend.

Date: 2004-03-09 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
When I found LJ, I had no friends in RL for a variety of reasons that were easy to identify, but I really hoped that my awful personality wasn't the BIG reason that I just wasn't properly understanding...

Other than my husband and a couple of friends I've made here in Nashville, everyone I actually care about and "know" is online. I love that I'm able to be exactly who I am here and that my character is apparently not terribly objectionable after all.

I can't be sure if my actual efforts to be knowable are what make you feel that you know me on some level, but I'm just glad to have made the cut ;)

Date: 2004-03-09 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-niciasus652.livejournal.com
Gah, has LJ become such an issue that people are friend locking their posts. Tis very sad. I hope you keep me listed.

Date: 2004-03-09 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
Oh, I'm not getting rid of anyone!

And as the poll results are showing that my randomness is entertaining or interesting to the majority of people, there apparently would not be any point to me having two journals or locking anything, so I'm going to just leave things as they are.

LJ quandaries

Date: 2004-03-09 09:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] kiezh.livejournal.com
Please don't take my answer to your second question (switch to the fic LJ) as an insult or an indication that I don't find you interesting. I originally conceived of my "friends" list as a fic (/vids/art/meta) notification list, and as it has expanded, I've found it more and more difficult to keep up with. There are a number of LJs I wander through when I have time (that aren't on my friends list) because the people are interesting and I like to know what's going on with them, but my friends list is already too much for me at 95. (I boggle at flists of several hundred. Those people must be much more efficient than I am.)

I may have to give up on restricting my flist and just start using reading filters a lot, to keep up with WIPs and such when I don't have time for the whole flist, then go catch up with people when I can. Especially with the prevalence of friends-only journals, which I both sympathize with and regret.

Perhaps, instead of a fic LJ, you could just announce fic on [livejournal.com profile] sv_fanfic?

Re: LJ quandaries

Date: 2004-03-09 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetglove.livejournal.com
I don't take it as an insult--just being honest. I've got a big FL, but I also have no job, no kids, no particular responsibilities, so I can keep up with a big list most of the time.

And, as fascinating as I find myself, I do acknowledge that other people might not be hanging on my every word ;)

I did expect that most respondents would reply as you did, but since that hasn't been the case, I'm going to be leaving things as they are (one journal, no lock). I might do the [livejournal.com profile] sv_fanfic thing though...

friends-locking

Date: 2004-03-10 08:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] beet
About the third question - I guess my feeling really falls under "something some people need to do, but shitty for new lj-ers." I can't tell you the number of times I've followed interesting comments back to journals and found them locked. Without knowing what's on the journal, I'm not likely to friend them.

I'd rather have the chance to browse through their journal and see what's there, drop by every now and then and then friend. But I'll happily admit I'm a little neurotic about friending. I'm slooooow.

Nice to meet you, by the way. *g*

Date: 2004-03-12 01:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] littledrop.livejournal.com
Re "paranoid and self-important":

I've got one for that very reason. *g*

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